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Forum: Hubzilla vs Friendica

Mon, 22 May 2023 12:53:39 +0200

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Grischa wrote the following post Mon, 22 May 2023 12:53:39 +0200

Forum: Hubzilla vs Friendica

Why is that that the Friendica forums are not supported by Hubzilla but Hubzilla forums are supported by Friendica?
They seem to be a technique that is somewhat similar..

But posts (and even worse: answers) from Friendica forums are single posts w/o any context in Hubzilla. It looks like Friendica manages forums way better in supporting other forums, too. Or is this simply a configuration problem on my site?

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Mon, 22 May 2023 21:07:04 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Woudl you have an example for a Friendica forum you had such issues with? I'd subscribe to test.

Tue, 23 May 2023 01:25:14 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Are you talking about the broken/missing forum mentioning functionality which makes it impossible to post to Friendica forums from Hubzilla?

As for forum threads on Friendica, I can see them just fine.

Tue, 23 May 2023 18:24:44 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@Grischa the issues have been ironed out iirc. You are using an outdated version...

Wed, 24 May 2023 11:27:02 +0200

Grischa

grischa@hub.brockha.us

@Mario Vavti Okay, I updated now (and lost my theme settings so it seems, I will look into that later)

The problem I see did not go away: When I see a post from (i.e.) the Friendica Support Forum in the notifications widget it is not listed below "Forums".
But the main problem I see: This new post is listed below "Network" and when I click it it shows the single post w/o any context. No way to see, what it was an answer to or if it was an answer at all.

This is what I see, when I click on a notifcation created by an answer in the "Friendica Suppor" Forum. No context, simly that answer to "something".

Bildschirmfoto vom 2023-05-24 11-24-18.png

Wed, 24 May 2023 23:53:43 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@Grischa

and lost my theme settings so it seems

Right, Hubzilla has a native dark theme now...

I am following @Fediverse News here which is a friendica group and it works well so far. Not sure why it would not work for another forum...

Sat, 27 May 2023 09:07:10 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@Grischa i guess your hub might not be aware that the channel in question is a forum. You can try to refresh the connection from the edit connection tools. This will refetch and update the record...

Advice to participants, personal data export/import inconsistent performance

Mon, 22 May 2023 11:34:07 +0200

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hubzillar wrote the following post Mon, 22 May 2023 11:34:05 +0200

Advice to participants, personal data export/import inconsistent performance

Data export is inconsistent.
There is an option to import data into a 'profile' but as usual, no documentation. Who knows the success criteria?
Programmers need to be honest: seems little care for software quality assurance, more interest to get fellow programmers to test new bugs, sorry, "features".

Wed, 24 May 2023 10:44:35 +0200

emaxmax

emaxmax@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

#Hubzilla would benefit file validators which could check if the export is valid (this would help on export/import issues like https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/issues/1723 for instance)

Sun, 21 May 2023 22:56:34 +0200

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Maria Karlsen wrote the following post Sun, 21 May 2023 22:56:32 +0200

I reshared a post from a Mastodon contact. There was a couple of comments from my Hubzilla contacts.
After logging out I noticed the public stream: There was another comment on my post, from a Mastodon user I am not connected to.
I logged in again to check - no such comment.
I double-checked my permissions. I don't allow open comments.

@Mario Vavti Is this a known problem? I haven't seen it before.

Commenting premissions

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Sun, 21 May 2023 23:15:12 +0200

Maria Karlsen

shimriez@zotum.net

The first is the public stream, the second is what I see when logged in.

Mon, 22 May 2023 19:05:15 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

Reliance on so few programmer(s), a bigger problem.

Mon, 22 May 2023 20:29:30 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@hubzillar I'd suggest to get involved, or actively look for more.

Mon, 22 May 2023 20:30:58 +0200 last edited: Mon, 22 May 2023 20:31:55 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@!Maria Karlsen Maria, how did you manage to upload images here? Did you have to upload to your own channel first and then reference them or is there a direct option? I dont have a direct option.

Mon, 22 May 2023 20:39:05 +0200

Maria Karlsen

shimriez@zotum.net

@_jayrope I don't have a button for it I just type [img]path-to-my-picture[/img]

Tue, 23 May 2023 01:22:03 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@_jayrope There is no Mastodon-style "upload your image somewhere and add it to this post just like that" button on Hubzilla. You actually have to upload images to the file space built into your channel first. Then you can add them with the image button in the editor which will give you the BBcode used for embedding.

Tue, 23 May 2023 18:35:35 +0200

Marshall Sutherland (Posting with Hubzilla)

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

This came up the other day. I have an Upload/Attach button when I post/reply, but wasn't able to figure out what causes me to have it when other people don't.

Tue, 23 May 2023 20:33:21 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Jupiter Rowland I know. Should be changed. Too clumsy this way. Another reason, why users often run away, when testing HZ. One day soon I#ll make a complete list, or a post asking all of you, what you are mising in UI/UX. Because HZ is generally capable.

Wed, 24 May 2023 12:11:50 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@Maria Karlsen in general currently we can not prevent AP profiles to comment on Hubzilla posts and send theire comments to whoever they see fit. We do actually prevent those comments to appear on the channel and public stream but it seems they can leak to the public stream somehow. Will investigate...

Sat, 27 May 2023 14:43:23 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

@_jayrope
Extant programmers need to write good documentation to attract new participants. The normal behaviour is create new bugs (sorry, "features"), someone else to write how feature is supposed to function.
In terms of this thread context, personal opinion is that the hubzilla management of files is superior because it promotes the user to think about permissions of the file.

However, as posted earlier, file permissions does not work consistently or as expected; documentation problem again.

Sat, 27 May 2023 14:55:34 +0200

hubzillar

hubzillar@tiksi.net

@Mario Vavti

but it seems they can leak to the public stream somehow

Does this occur when connections have been configured with restrictive permissions?

How does one authorize #fonts for use in #Hubzilla?

Sun, 21 May 2023 16:42:41 +0200

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_jayrope wrote the following post Sun, 21 May 2023 16:42:40 +0200

How does one authorize #fonts for use in #Hubzilla?

How does one authorize #fonts for use in #Hubzilla?

I've created a fonts folder in /library, do the usual @font-face thing in style.css - but fonts don't show and browser dev tools report "downloadable font: rejected by sanitizer".

What am i missing there?

Thank you already!

@Mario Vavti @mike @𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼

fonts css styling themes

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Sun, 21 May 2023 17:23:41 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

solution part II HZ assumes /view to be the root folder, so just use ../../fonts/font.ttf in CSS

Mon, 22 May 2023 14:03:06 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

There is no font authorisation in Hubzilla. You should be able to serve any font you wish. Probably best to use a schema for that. You can basically override any css in a schema.

Mon, 22 May 2023 20:17:41 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Mario Vavti Okay! Have to learn, what a schema is at all, then. I'll take a look. Thank you!

Image sync to clone broken?

Sat, 20 May 2023 12:26:28 +0200

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Harald Eilertsen wrote the following post Sat, 20 May 2023 12:25:23 +0200

Image sync to clone broken?

Hi,

Over the past week I've been trying to debug and figure out why a recently channel cloned to my hub don't get their images and files synced over. I found there was already a bug report about this, but there does not seem to have been any action on it. I've added the details there, so I won't repeat them here, but I'm hoping @Mario Vavti or someone has some insight into how to debug these issues, and can provide some advice.

The bug report is here:
https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/issues/1680

Thanks in advance!

Mon, 22 May 2023 14:10:13 +0200

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

I have done clone functionality tests prior to the release of 8.4 and was not able to spot any issues. Also not in regard to file sync. So thereis probably a specific situtaion i am not able to reproduce so far...

Wed, 24 May 2023 10:41:50 +0200

emaxmax

emaxmax@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Yet this question is still open: "Is there a way to force a resync, so that the files on the clone will be resynced from the primary?"

Clone creation partial success

Fri, 19 May 2023 22:52:40 +0200

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od wrote the following post Fri, 19 May 2023 22:52:40 +0200

Clone creation partial success

The clone was created, but the connections not imported. According to the very low documentation, it was presumed that connections are part of the "social graph" of data that should be imported.

Sat, 20 May 2023 17:08:29 +0200

Marshall Sutherland (Posting with Hubzilla)

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

Hubzilla/Streams contacts should have copied. I don't know about connections from networks that don't recognize cloning. They might not copy because they won't recognize your clone as a clone.

Sat, 20 May 2023 21:43:52 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

They are copied, but on the clone, they're listed as not connected to that instance. It's safe to ignore as long as you don't make that clone your new primary.

Clone creation confusion

Wed, 17 May 2023 18:46:32 +0200

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od wrote the following post Wed, 17 May 2023 18:46:27 +0200

Clone creation confusion

At the time to write, the web site 'tiksi.net' is unavailable:

"
         Apologies but this site is unavailable at the moment. Please try again later.
         "

Tried to use the 'clone' function:

zotum.net
        login page, 'remote authentication'
            requests to enter channel address
                "
                 Apologies but this site is unavailable at the moment. Please try again later.
                "

        account created
            registration process, option to import a file or to enter credentials of channel (e-mail address, channel name, channel password, option to make new account hub the primary hub). No explanation of the results if option to be primary or not.
            If the regrestration process asks for an email address, the channel is in fact the account?
            Explanation required that the password for the account is the same for all created channels
            channel export json file fails to be accepted
            After repeated attempts, dialogue text box appears:
                "Unable to download data from old server"

Is it true that the original server of the account must be active and available at the time that a clone is created?

        In connections, someone added my new channel, with a date 2 years ago!

        In the module 'files' there exists a file dated 2 years ago, even though this account was created today

        In the 'three lines' menu, there is not a hyperlink to the 'help' documentation.

        The 'help' documentation shared on the server 'tiksi.net' is incomplete in description of correct account clone. Those that may have used successful 'clone' feature, please describe, so this may be added to the documentation.

Fri, 19 May 2023 22:25:35 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Did you try again?

Sat, 20 May 2023 17:02:01 +0200

Marshall Sutherland (Posting with Hubzilla)

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

Is it true that the original server of the account must be active and available at the time that a clone is created?

If you can't access the site you are trying to clone from, you literally cannot access the data to clone it. If you already have a copy, you don't have to copy again from the "original" copy, if that was your implication. Any copy will do.

Strange behavior of the "Channel sources" app

Wed, 17 May 2023 09:46:40 +0200 last edited: Wed, 17 May 2023 10:35:56 +0200

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Michael [Кошак] Skolsky (R1BLH) wrote the following post Wed, 17 May 2023 09:46:38 +0200

Strange behavior of the "Channel sources" app

@!Hubzilla Support Forum
I use the Channel Sources application to merge all my posts on different types of instances and from my home blog into my channel. It used to work relatively well.
Now (in the current version of Hubzilla) something has gone wrong.

More or less, importing content from Pixelfed works adequately.
The RSS import works in a strange way -- publications are imported in the "past" -- see screenshot (post ia made in my channel dated 33 minutes ago, post imported from RSS of my home blog on the same PC as Hubzilla instance dated as 16 hours ago, but it was posted just before the post in Hubzilla channel).

Importing from peertube, mastodon does not work, although I can see the posts in the feed.
Import from misskey, calckey -- I haven't tested it with third party servers (it doesn't work with mine instances).

@!Mario Vavti Could you give an idea how to fix it, please?

Fri, 19 May 2023 22:23:49 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Current means 8.4? In that case you should file an issue on the git for the dev to learn about. https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/issues

Documentation for remote authentication?

Tue, 16 May 2023 16:50:52 +0200

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Kristian wrote the following post Tue, 16 May 2023 16:50:50 +0200

Documentation for remote authentication?

Folks,
can anyone out here recommend readings on how to understand Hubzillas remote authentication mechanism (which appears to happen whenever I am logged into my hub and visit a channel/forum on another hub)? What system or protocol is used here?
Thanks and best regards,
Kristian